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like i said... it was hard to notice watching it live...
we had all jumped up at that point and were cheering for harris to get out...
but i definitely remember thinking there was something strange about the end of the first round...
im pretty sure the bell rings and he still holds the choke for a second or 2 though...
i would think the bell is more significant than the clappers regardless of lateness...
will be interesting to see what or if the mma shows say about it... =\


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Good points all of you, I agree with what you said Kamara about UFC. And I also rechecked the Falco fight now and WTF!! I thought those blunders where reserved for the smaller promotions where you can expect some misstakes because of inexperience. But to sound the bell 5-7 seconds 'too early' or the clapper too late, thats just ridiculous for a promotion like UFC with over 100 events.

I am also getting really irritated to hear Dana White say in the post presser "...but nobody gives a shit what I think right" and then go and decide that good skilled fighters will not get a title shot because hes 'boring' and an exiting fighter that is shit gets a main event spot and a lot of stuff like that. Its so much bullshit to say he has no influence! Dana decides who jumps and who doesnt and noone believes anything else. He shold stop insulting our intelligence trying to tell us he has no influence over how and who the fighters fight and how they act. Maybe he believes it himself but then I think hes the only one.

Going back to what kamara said, I agree that if they want it to be treated like a real sport and not a circus they have to sharpen up some of their attitudes and stop making freakshow matchups, stop telling the fans and the press a load of bullshit about whos in charge and not. And they need to get some real judges.

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Just call me "one step ahead of the MMA media lenoz" :)

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i just watched the harris/falcao end of round one fiasco...
its definitely clear that both fighters thought there was more time left...
whereas we all heard the bell clear as day... the clappers were hard to hear but were just before the bell...
my question is... when they say fighters are looking at the clock to see how much time is left...
do they mean like an official fight clock or just the big screens with the ufc clock...?
because that could be your explanation right there...
they both think there is 8 seconds left (from screen)...
so neither expects or hears the bell when it comes 2 seconds later...
but if falcao had 3-5 seconds more he would have finished him... =\


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Following loss to Maiquel Falcao, middleweight Gerald Harris released from UFC



On Monday night, middleweight contender Gerald Harris (17-3 MMA, 3-1 UFC) told MMAjunkie.com Radio that he was happy to still have a job with the UFC.

On Tuesday, he found out he doesn't.

Sources close to Harris informed MMAjunkie.com (http://www.mmajunkie.com) that the two-time "Knockout of the Night" winner and former cast member of "The Ultimate Fighter 7" has been released from the world's biggest mixed martial arts promotion.

When contacted by MMAjunkie.com, Harris also confirmed his release but declined to comment on the matter at this time.

Harris has been at the center of controversy after narrowly avoiding a first-round submission loss to Maiquel Falcao at this past weekend's UFC 123 event, which took place at The Palace of Auburn Hills in suburban Detroit and aired on pay-per-view.

The opening frame appears to have been cut short by approximately seven seconds due to a timekeeping error, and Harris appeared within a fraction of that of being rendered unconscious by a deep rear-naked choke. But Harris supporters also point to Falcao's refusal to immediately release the choke as a reason "Hurricane" wasn't able to compete effectively in the final two frames.

The pace slowed in the final 10 minutes of the fight, and the fighters were booed throughout the third round for their passivity.

UFC president Dana White was openly critical of both fighters at the evening's post-event press conference. The feedback enraged many Falcao supporters who believe their fighter was robbed of a first-round submission win. Today, White told MMAjunkie.com that the Brazilian contingent could take solace in the face that Falcao would eventually return to the octagon with another chance to prove himself deserving of the tag "UFC fighter."

"Their guy us going to stick around," White said in regards to the angered Falcao supporters. "Gerald Harris isn't."

Harris began his association with the UFC as a member of "The Ultimate Fighter 7." He defeated Mike Marrello to enter the "TUF" house but was then defeated by eventual season winner Amir Sadollah in the very next round.

Harris went on to win six fights outside of the UFC before receiving an official invitation to the promotion following a phone call to White while he was a guest on MMAjunkie.com Radio.

Harris debuted for the UFC in January 2010 with a "Knockout of the Night" win over John Salter. He would go on to notch a TKO win over Mario Miranda, as well as another "Knockout of the Night" win over Dave Branch at July's UFC 116 that received heavy play on ESPN as one of SportsCenter's "Top Plays."

The loss to Falcao snapped an official 10-fight win streak for Harris.

While Harris' release will likely prove unpopular with many MMA fans, White recently explained the promotion's sometimes aggressive roster moves are no different than any other professional sport.

"These are the big-leagues, man," White said. "It's no different than Major League Baseball, no different than the NFL. You perform, or you go away."

"I'd rather have two guys in a dog fight and have a guy lose and keep him around than have a guy who's in the Ultimate Staring Competition for five minutes. Nobody wants to see that [expletive]."

Roster spots in all division will continue to remain at a premium in coming months as the UFC absorbs its sister company, the WEC, and the new-look promotion looks to effectively balance its burgeoning list of athletes under contract.

For more on UFC 123, check out the UFC events section of MMAjunkie.com.


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While Hughes was coming out of the locker room, they had the audience noise in the background. Unfortunately, they put the mic next to someone booing nonstop.


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In a weird way maybe Jackson did return to his Pride days. He was convinced he lost the fight, and under Pride rules this would have been more likely.


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